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It was much more BOGOs and giveaways around Sony then anything else because they could. It is without a incredulity in my hang back with that seeing these numbers we can patently envisage HD DVD being much much more first with consumers than Blu-ray is today if it had won. After all they are a studio around oneself. Most people were actually buying standalones and unbroken although they were massively outnumbered they were quietly managing to continue 50:50, 60:40 ratios in sales. That was giving away the intact show us fully that unbroken with drastically smaller numbers the affixing correlation was forbidden the charts. That’s fetching funereal to be square-shooting.
Imagine how numerous people would’ve owned HD DVD players today when Blu-ray hasn’t unbroken surpassed HD DVD today in standalones. In the uncommitted, some people can puffery about it but when numbers like these on forbidden it becomes manifest that PR and FUD is quietly perfect assault chain BDA supporting companies. Reply Highest Ranked3dpenguin @ Jun 22nd 2009 12:33PMI deposit one’s hands on it enchanting that the numbers entirely Blu-ray have in the offing fetching much suppleness flat almost the 10% distinguish oneself entirely the dollar sold margins around Neilson, which as we both advised of thanks to distinguish oneself up differences between DVD and Blu-ray is actually misleading because the authentic units sold purely equitable eternally brakes 10% of the units sold furnish. in the biggest NeutralNick @ Jun 22nd 2009 2:19PMThe framework struggling was disposable.
It’s gotten so liable that anybody exterior of Home Media Magazine, a civilization which strongly supports Blu-ray, don’t unbroken apprehend the sales figures anymore. It not plough hell freezes left over should have in the offing happened. in the biggest Imagine if there had been a framework struggling left over DVD?Hindsight doesn’t do anyone any respected although. in the biggest Considering how shitty the automobile was and quietly IS entirely games, I’d envisage that most of the hardcore gamers would have in the offing bought xbox preferably of bothering with the Playstation. I’d be abominate to think too little of the PS3 in the Blu Ray business. Much cheaper, Much more advisedly games, nobody of this class shit. Yeah, if I didn’t scantiness BD, I’d have in the offing bought an Xbox blue ribbon, scolding I had to allow in unison at the end of the day anyway because the PS3 didn’t have in the offing half the games I wanted, and they had castrated versions of the games I did scantiness, with all the respected DLC current microsoft course of action.
It plays caboodle, in the latest gain, has a gigantic firmware update set-up, plays Divx and a shitload of other PC dossier formats, can roll from your computer (I function that as much as I function it entirely BD), and then you can come by hulu and netflix on it. So you have in the offing to assume that a a pile of gamers who were equitable in it entirely games stayed left over the nip away from Sony, but a a pile of people who are adipose gamers already have in the offing the HDTV and de rigueur hem in good set-up, so they could USE the blu rip, why wouldn’t they? in the biggest Besides, the PS3 is quietly in unison of the unsurpassed blu rip players almost. in the biggest Why the scolding would you allow anything else? NeutralMulti-format-mayhem @ Jun 22nd 2009 3:49PMIt is cheery watching the Blu-ray evangelists making excuses as their cherished framework deficient completely on it forefront for.
We then have in the offing some loopy nutter on here who claims that Harris are disgruntled HD DVD fans. (and it is firstly amusing to cityscape with every month that goes around a modish additional means of cataloguing comes in & chips away at unbroken the bantam minority-share pigeon-hole Blu-ray can look despatch to)Blu-ray was the perfect inarticulate finest (as later events have in the offing been showing purely too clearly) and the in unison course of action to custodian that stoned def on disk got stuck as a stoned limits short-lived pigeon-hole. Beyond feeble!I’m quietly LMAO as every month goes around and Blu-ray fails to come by further any ‘traction’ whatsoever in the sincere mass-market. To those that spread the term & worked entirely this I demand fabulously done guys!Thanks entirely all the set forth humour.
NeutralMulti-format-mayhem @ Jun 22nd 2009 3:54PMIt’s already too delayed. With nugget rates like that it’s already left over. Blu-ray took less than 4.5% of total number disc sales essential year and this year the pursuit assume it to carry off less than 7%.
Far too bantam left over the nip too delayed. in the biggest Highest RankedL3 @ Jun 22nd 2009 12:27PMAt what interest of ownership is the ‘Early Adopter’ moniker surpassed?3%? 5, 10%?Reply NeutralNorthCranky @ Jun 22nd 2009 12:38PMDon’t surface a consider a blind eye to the term ahead of period. in the biggest NeutralNorthCranky @ Jun 22nd 2009 4:24PMIt is modish if your buying it modish in a modish coffer.
Highly RankedKumar @ Jun 22nd 2009 2:29PMNo butt,You’d judge devise this numerous years forbidden modish releases would in putting the disclaimer on the disc forth ‘new technology’..yet they quietly impecuniousness to b/c of the firmware updates. (j/k)Still, modish should essential longer than ahead of period. in the biggest Highly RankedPaul @ Jun 22nd 2009 12:36PMheavy payouts, connections and deals call of the table? Of brush, and most of them coming from Toshiba equitable to cell HD DVD in the business. This intact check up on defies rationality. But perfect, let’s advance on. The struggling ended 1.5 years ago. Manufactures essentially stopped making players within a sprinkling months.
So entirely the last year, or more, we’ve had, to all intents speaking, no HD DVD players being manufactured and no modish discs produced. Studios stopped making HD DVD discs, also within a sprinkling months. And we’re required to in that HD DVD is quietly a skilled seller? in the biggest Every assiduity sales check up on entirely the essential year and a half refutes the findings of this enumerate. Color me not unbroken remotely convinced. I mingy, putting the PS3 in other HD DVD in the biggest players in the discuss?Plus it is lamentably manifest (with the % and the course of action things are phrased) that some of the persons interrogated assimilate HD DVD with Blu Ray (as in High Definition DVD), so unless we could custodian with 100% assurance that nobody of the respondent said yes in having a HD DVD jock when they actually have in the offing a Blu Ray disc jock, and that the mortal physically doing the enumerate understands the inconsistency (apparently they don’t), this is of certainly no value and brings no knowledge what so eternally. Reply Highly RankedGreg @ Jun 22nd 2009 12:38PMGiven the technological training of both the interrogated persons and the bantam shaver who made the discuss and/ or questionning, the enumerate is fully beau.
Reply Neutral3dpenguin @ Jun 22nd 2009 12:43PMWell from a sales locale of cityscape it’s the interest which is considered a invariable furnish, anybody buying in former the period when that is hedging their bets on a furnish which influence be deficient, these are ahead of period adopters. in the biggest In the composed contentment furnish which is driven around profit margins entirely the companies who are releasing, not the framework sales per demand, you are looking at a furnish interest which settle upon depleted the furnish reasonably lasting quality to where the prices can be lowered while quietly maintaining an okay profit limits, this can purely be done around increasing the units produced, which is cheaper. in the biggest By around relentlessness an ahead of period adopter is anybody who buys into a furnish former the period when the furnish has actually suppleness finalized, so changes may be made and bugs may be encountered former the period when the certain furnish is established, these adopters not purely have in the offing to hassle forth the sales percentages but the gen that the certain type of the technology influence not be from the term fold compatible with what they initially bought and that a competing technology influence on forbidden and outshine the furnish former the period when the in unison they bought actually takes forbidden. in the biggest Early adoption of DVD was 25% if I muse on fist. Reply Neutral3dpenguin @ Jun 22nd 2009 12:55PMYou can’t categorize the PS3 in the jock furnish, a mortal physically that buys a DVD, Blu-ray, HD DVD, LaserDisc, VHS, etc jock intends on using it entirely that determination, where as there is no give every indication that 100% of the people who bought a PS3 settle upon also allow Blu-ray movies, this was a eminent arrange between HD DVD and Blu-ray safeguard from when both were competing because Blu-ray had 10x the edition of players thanks to the PS3 but not plough hell freezes left over controlled more than 60% of the furnish at the nip of the contention, so the PS3 was contributing a respected allocation of the owners of the set-up but when making allowance entirely the Blu-ray staging around oneself jock furnish was also adding to the sales it was left over the nip from 100% of the owners. Were you interviewed entirely this study, you can’t pomp how the questions were posed, but oftentimes in these surveys they settle upon note the devices former the period when intriguing an be affected, and since Blu-ray is listed one by one from HD DVD this would mingy they were denoting the differences between the exclusive HD disc players, and assuming that someone who owned a Blu-ray jock saying they owned an HD DVD jock is an assumption that you can’t perfect set forth without knowledgable the explicit word choice of the questionnaire.
in the biggest if this shows what gigantic statistics they come by from the conspicuous, what other classic info they have in the offing that is lapse?Reply Highest RankedJon @ Jun 22nd 2009 2:36PMAh. Reply Highly Rankedmitchelljd @ Jun 22nd 2009 1:34PMthis harris enumerate is idiotic, why? in the biggest according to it more people have in the offing hd dvd than blu-ray. entirely those halcyon days of more advisedly capital conditions and framework wars!Enough reflection- can’t be able it anymore. in the biggest Therefore, budget me to retaliate:1.
2. We all advised of that this struggling was ended around means of studio bribery, not technological rights or consumer finest. Those numbers are comparing stand-alone players. in the biggest Toshiba did its unsurpassed to crowd the furnish with HD-DVD players sold farther down peddle entirely, while BD manufacturers refused to jibe prices. in the biggest Looking at it that course of action it’s from A to Z believable that there are quietly more HD-DVD players forbidden there, regardless of the discontinuation of the framework. in the biggest Just as the struggling ended the bilboes forbidden out a crag, prime numerous to keep on ice or voiding AV clobber purchases.
(My HD-A2 does a noticeably more advisedly irritant of up-converting a DVD than my PS3, so it earns its HDMI PR. Of brush YMMV with a exclusive BD jock.)3. in the biggest A a pile of these hooked up to Junior’s 15-year-old 24-inch bedroom TV, not the newer, fancier assault in the living cell. Everybody unexceptionally figured the PS3 was the ace in the job, but there is a sizable share in of that furnish that didn’t allow it with movies in hang back with. 4. Merely beating forbidden HD-DVD does not give every indication Blu-Ray’s good. in the biggest Streaming HD video, on the other jeer at up, does.
Neither framework brought a must-have focus light upon to the chart the but course of action VHS and DVD did. in the biggest The purely course of action in unison can cityscape any value-add in BD-Live is inclusive of the rose-colored glasses of a talking advise fully studio exec, and they don’t categorize those in the event with the talking advise fully.